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1.2 vs 1.3 motor turbo problems

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5.3K views 4 replies 3 participants last post by  Kermmydog  
#1 ·
As an old school mechanic, I was shocked when I first heard about these tiny motors. Back when I was in high school VW had a 1.2 in the Beetle, but it only had 36 to 40 HP. Trying to learn about these new motors, I have found comments about the turbo oil lines getting cooked on the 1.2. Various videos on YouTube show the 1.2 motor with the exhaust and turbo in front, whereas the 1.3 has the exhaust and turbo behind the motor.

Does anyone have actual experience as to whether front or back turbo location makes any difference?

The one BIG thing I have seen is that the 1.2 has a belt in oil timing belt, and the 1.3 has a chain.
 
#5 ·
We have a 1.3L in a 2023 TB ACTIV AWD.
I'm an old school mechanic. I remember when we thought a 140hp in a Chevy 4 banger was big HP.
Now a 3 banger with 155 HP.
We drive in 4-8,000 ft in elevation. I very impressed with the performance.
I ordered a set of BFG KO2 LT 225x65x17.
There in so I'm going to spend the summer in the Nevada back country.
 
#4 ·
There are likely many variables. As you pointed out there is only an 8 ci difference between engines which isn't enough to create the difference in hp/tq or the much lower rpm band on the 1.3, so the turbo size or design could be different. Other possibilities are the camshafts could be more aggressive in the 1.3 and there's also wastegate opening pressures (does the 1.3 build more pressure or do it faster than the 1.2)?
 
#3 ·
I have wondered about that. Tech specs say that the 1.3 is actually 1341 cc, which makes it 8.6 cubic inches larger than the 1.2. With the torque coming on at a lot less RPM, I am wondering if there is some major difference in the turbo setup, or maybe there is some other factor I haven't looked at.
 
#2 ·
The 1.3 is a much better engine than the 1.2 even though it's almost the same size. The 1.3 not only makes more hp/tq, but it also has full torque available at 1500 rpm vs 2400 rpm for the 1.2, so it's more efficient too.